See more ideas about Maple hardwood floors, Hardwood, Maple floors. When it comes to hardwood flooring, you have a lot of … I’ve tried transtint dark walnut dye (resulting in a dark ugly 80’s guitar look). While I love the product and the application process has been fantastic, the color is much closer to black than I anticipated. It was after this that I asked my “finish guy”. If I nail it down, maybe I’ll make a video for you. to match have sought out the products they needed to achieve the results their customers have demanded. I lightly sanded and as pplied a custom stain. The sample is indeed white, but the undertones are now a bile yellow-green. Waterborne finishes dry clear and what they call “water white”, which essentially means they bring absolutely no color to the wood. Does spraying have an advantage over the gel or am I just dreaming I read that somewhere. The problem is trying to fill the dings and some “pullout” where the planer gouged too deeply. In the curls, quilt or figure of the maple there are varying densities in the wood. Yeah, I know, a highly figured piece of figured maple is hard to come by, but be selective when choosing wood for your project. Diluted/missed stain? Normally that last part is something we want to avoid, but in your case, its a necessary step. That said, waterborne finishes are getting better and better every year. Then over top of that we installed beautiful white maple butcherblock countertops. can you make a video for this? I hope it works as I am nickel and diming myself to death on stain. After we got it home we tried it on one of the shaker style doors. Another stain? What is your thought on applying a coat or even two of brown mahogany over the Java? Here’s the short version: use gel stain! So if you don’t like the color, it can be tricky to change it or fix it. 1. thanks. While some finishing can be easily accomplished, I don’t know that I’d say finishing a set of maple stairs is really a DIY level job. I need all the help I can get. It doesn’t matter whether you are flusing a dye or a stain, maple woods need to be pre sealed before applying. His floor guys sanded and bleached the maple then did sample consisting of two coats of white stain. Its a nice dark brown with red undertones. Save Money, Save Time: 2 Innovative Ways to Use HyperTone™ Stains on Sport Floors, One Simple Secret for Avoiding the Dreaded Picture Frame, A New Way to Think About Staining Maple Floors. Hope that helps. Just a clear protective film and nothing more. (A late “Congrats” on the kid by the way, they really change things, huh? http://imgur.com/gallery/mLO1OMD/. Took a sample of the wood and they gave me a sample which looked good. But you will want to make sure you use something for the blotch issue. But I am hesitant to “monday morning quarterback” your cabinet guy without more information. I usually do this in a very approximate way by diluting the Sealcoat 50% with denatured alcohol. Am I dreaming? But if you have HVLP it can be done. The gel certainly seemed like the most important piece of this puzzle. Water-popping will also help make sure the color is absorbed more evenly. But it sounds like you are already layering on too much white without letting much natural wood grain to show through. I always appreciate when someone who is in the wood working business is not too pretentious to admit they unsure of something and to ask for help. Custom made Maple. I wish that I had read your web site a couple of weeks ago. What is best product to use? We are having a birds eye maple piece built and would like it to be a grey color whether dye or stain. lol. Can we fix it? Hey Kevin. Once the color is where you like it, switch to full strength lacquer and you’re good to go. Many thanks in advance for your thoughts, A, Well you can certainly add dye to the mixture to change the color. As I recommended above, you are gong to want to dilute to about 1/2-1lb cut. If the stairs are already finished and you aren’t happy with the color, they will need to be stripped, sanded, and then re-finished. They advised us to stain first and then apply sanding sealer then Cab Acrylic finish. These are not easy calculations so most folks either estimate or use a chart or calculator. Would like to get the stain off and just have natural sealed floor. What is meant by a “cut” of shellac? Just apply it like your cleaning a wood with mineral spirits. Trying to come up with a game plan. Just keep in mind that you might start to muddy up the grain a bit since there are several layers of color sitting on top of the wood. Kathy i am too now trying to go dark! Here’s a picture of the finished product with 2 coats of oil based polyurethane. Wet the wood with water before staining and let dry, this opens the grain to accept the stain evenly, then sand out with 320 grit going with the grain. There’s really no way I can answer that for you. Contractor: No, maple doesn’t take stain well. We don’t want to make them dark. So if the crack turns out a little bit darker, it tends to look like a natural grain line. You can brush it on and it should come in satin and matte sheens. Rob. As for gel stains, they work great. As for whether you should request new doors? This might be a good question to throw to the folks in the forum: http://woodtalkonline.com. )and the floors we have revealed seem to be maple. Didn’t realize maple was a problem until we started staining. I’m gearing up to take on my maple kitchen cabinets that were built and finished by my father. More Causes and Cures: Stain on the Brain. We used the same sealer for the countertops that we used for the cabinetry… assuming that since it said it would dry clear, it would indeed dry clear. Hi, I have never seen it that color. In fact, I have never heard of such a thing. finish started peeling immediately, before the job was finished. We intended to stain everything a light gray. (I usually avoid maple unless I plan on painting it as I’ve been warned of it’s blotchy tendencies but couldn’t resist this as it was the perfect style and only $30 on Craiglist). Or did I go wrong and not order Cherry wood. Hey Marc, sorry about that. I’ve read blogs and blogs on this and you are the only guy that actually tries to answer the question (thank you). I will post again when I get the result. When maple or hickory kitchen cabinets are stained, it is done in a factory controlled environment, and they use different types of fast dry, spray-on coatings. So what you’re seeing is the natural ambering qualities of oil-based finishes. If I was to now use a polyurethane over the sanded wood wood that match the colours on the rest of the stairs. I decided to go against the online hardwood flooring forum hive mind and give it a shot. However if you’re doing an outdoors project these products are not ideal due to their weakness to UV rays which will result in fading of the colors. I got a beautiful dinning table made out of knotted line that I tried to stain with Minmax Jacobean. This is probably said thousands of times a day across the US during a site evaluation of a wood floor. How difficult would it be to sand and refinish the floors to a lighter finish without a stripey look? The floors have what is called a dog-finish. What can we do? Should I then use a GF water-based or oil-based gel stain? I have a 30 year old maple table that I sanded down completely, put one coat of stain on and it came out beautiful. I used poplar for the faceframes, drawer fronts, and door frames with 1/2 inch birch for the door panels. The problem with Polyshades is that you are adding color and polyurethane at the same time. I don’t like the limelight lol. Most of the finish is gone. Unfortunately, attempts My plan was to go dark, but as I researched and read more and more on how to stain maple dark, I became dismayed: it seemed like the entire internet was telling me it was impossible to stain maple dark successfully. After reading several of your posts and other website’s comments I am thinking this is not what I should do. I am using the Polyshades stains with the varathane built in. I am sure that with all I have learned on your site, my project will be spectacular! Its all about the test boards, as you well know by now. From Sherwin Williams and half the door ( I just did one side) . I know I want to spray the color on it and then spray the urethane as my topcoat. I will be doing the work myself. As a final note, commercial stains are often shown with photos of how the stain looks on pine and other woods. Today that person is me:-) I’ve been commissioned to make maple night stands in a dark chocolate colour (in Canada we spell colour this way! We were thinking of staining the floors dark to match the existing woodwork better, plus we like the look of the dark floors that are popular now. cabinets with a color lacquer finish (deep moss green). i want to be able to see the woods natural grain, but also have the wood the color i desire. If you're a commitment-phobic shopper, choosing interior flooring can feel like a never-ending process. I would also consider no stain at all but would at least like color of the wood to have some “color” other than the white look it has now. (When we removed a built in bookcase, it was clear that the floor had been stained a warm, golden honey color before it was white.) Once it cures, just topcoat with your finish of choice and you’ll be good to go. Not only was there extreme blotching, but the uneven hold was nearly universal, pooling also occurred. so here’s my plan ”. How should apply stain (brush or wipe)? Flood it on the surface and wipe off the excess for a nice even color. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bru...../202700081 Secondly, like others I have noticed, maple is a pretty non absorbent wood, it will not hold the color when I “remove the excess”. The solid maple wood is durable and easy to care for, and the rich dark color complements any church dcor. which is a rich mahogany. Honestly, I haven’t done many espresso finishes so I would have to experiment a little myself. Maple wood Maple wood does not take stain well as its name implies. would you recommend that as an easy fix. Frankly, I have no idea why an oil-based varnish would cause the surface to turn a dark color like that. How do you suggest I do this with the least amount of work. It was a two part clear solution that would chemically react with the wood to make it gray. then some sanding and recoating, tthen sand again. You can read about it here: http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co.....-them-all/ Use this material before the stain and then follow SW’s instructions. Selective sanding usually doesn’t yield very good results. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Randall, shugdrumcompany.com. Now my problem. I have done the treads and risers. Inadequate preparatory Thanks in advance. to whom it may concern… The wood grain is only slightly visible under an opaque pale finish. Hey Marc and Denny; If you are going to try experiments, try the alcohol based stains. The drawback is that it has taken me a while to learn to blend the base coat and knowing how colors layer was quite a learning curve. Available in the … From there, I’d have to analyze the results. It might help mask the blotch. The Wood Whisperer is proudly sponsored by brands that Marc trusts. In Darin’s case, from the “orange” tone he describes, maybe a slight amount of blue-green, green, or yellow-green tint in the shellac sanding sealer would produce the brown color he wants in the finished (pun intended) product. Should I just give it a light sanding and then use a gel stain on top to achieve the darker desired colour? I can scratch it off. We don’t want people to notice that there are two different woods in use. But to answer your other question about what you should have used, my recommendation would have been waterborne finish. How should I go about refinishing these cabinets? The first two coats were great. Sep 28, 2017 - Explore ADR Flooring's board "stained maple" on Pinterest. :) Did you try to contact General Finishes to see if they have any Canadian Vendors? This will allow you to perfect the color with one light coat at a time, while also building up the base for your topcoat. http://www.rockler.com/product.....;sid=AFN86. i want to bring out the natural grain without staining the wood any help would be great. But this would be a good topic for the future. Would you recommend filling it with wood filler – and again what brand? He also said water based stains work well but then you will have to pre-raise the grain. Once you are down to bare wood, there are lots of coloring options available to you. thanks for your response! Can you post a link to a picture or email one to me so I can actually see it? My Mom suggested a conditioner do I just finished applying that the night before last and it helped a lot on one door. Minwax Design Series washes, wood effects and waxes offer new options for bare wood and wood that's already stained. Is a sharp white floor doable and if so, can you please advise on the process. Working with Linseed Oil Dip the end of a rag or brush into linseed or tung oil. I always give honest opinions, findings, and experiences on products. I did do test strips with both popped and not-popped and the difference was dramatic. I have worked all summer and ut to now on my entertainment center and I do not want to screw it up at the end. I have a cherry color from Mini-Wax that I have put on maple scraps and I like it. Thanks. Durability isn’t much of an issue since the topcoat is what really determines the level of durability. But when I put the mixture or coats on the furniture are they compatatible if both are gel stains, or should I stick with one or the other colors and not mix? Hi Nikki. After the fifth attempt I was able to get most of the clear gloss coat off, however my sanding techniques left scribble-like indentations all over the wood, the stain only enhanced these horrible blotches. Unfortunately, blotch is easy to prevent and difficult to fix. This actually works quite well if you can get the filler to match the background. is that correct? I had a very fussy customer who wanted a dark stain and didn’t want to spend money, so i finished myself (to keep the cost down). Staining close-grained woods like maple and cherry presents a problem for the wood finisher, because they can absorb regular penetrating stains unevenly and appear blotchy. Oct 11, 2016 - Explore Dagny Kingsland's board "Stained maple hardwood floor" on Pinterest. By pre-sealing the wood with shellac, you can even out the … Then you can take colored pencils and draw in the missing grain lines. I am using a dewaxed shelac as a sanding sealer and this imparts a slightly amber tone to the wood and when I apply the col. maple gel stain I get an orange tone wood instead of the brown I would like. This is a great site that I just discovered. My suggestion would be to sand the whole thing down again and just make sure its sanding properly. The goal was to keep them the original white/natural color or as close to that as possible – certainly not orange-brown. I wouldn’t add any shellac as that will actually make it harder to get the color you are after. Maple, like several others species such as walnut, American cherry, They are then dried with UV lights so that the … Hi Kathy. any suggestions on how to achieve this please please help me. I’m almost certain the wood is maple since the cabinet is in almost perfect condition, no dings or scratches, even after over 50 years in public service. The color will be expresso (dark brown). Hi Alyssa. Let it dry over nite before application. Our contractor has stained them and clear coated them (once). I’m still a novice and while I took some care to check from piece to piece that the grain wasn’t drastically different, there are panels that start out dark and more figured and by the other end of the panel it’s cleaner, clearer, and more uniform. Or should I just embrace the differences? So i have had zero luck getting anything to look remotely close to the dark stairs , columns and trim . thanks so much! I need my bathroom back!!! It currently has a warm medium finish on it and I’m hoping to stain it to a darker warm colour to match our dining set. What do you recommend? It looks horrible, uneven in the middle of the door and very dark and the edges are light but still not attractive. Hopefully the grain will swell enough to raise the dent. Thanks. – For the best). If you want more protection and you don’t mind the wood yellowing to some extent, consider an oil-based poly. If I stain the cabinet first and then fill with a putty stained to match, will the putty “stick” since the wipe on product has polyurethane in it? But they will obscure the grain more than a dye. All that said, if you really want to do the filler route, I would recommend checking out Timbermate Wood Filler. And even it it doesn’t fill it completely, I personally think a natural-looking dent is better than a perfectly flat filled surface. You don’t want any surprises. Either way, I would recommend sealing the surface first with shellac, then adding your coats of toner. Tell me where can I get dark cherry finish? Any suggestions ? I am extremely happy with my results, and here’s how I did it. What type of prep do I need to do before applying the stain? Hello Ginger. You may not even have the option depending on the policies of the installer. Thank you for making this possible. If I decide to switch to gel stain and use the bullseye method in your video, is it possible to spray a base coat 90% lacquer thinner, 10% lacquer, plus the color additive using a cherry color, can I adjust the color with the gel stain and get somewhat even results from the plywood to the soft maple? David, MasterCraft ( Menards) maple unfinished doors. make a review on polyshades please :) you are awesome! The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. Hard maple is an extremely dense, tight-pored wood that does not absorb any stains. It was stained a cherry color, so we sanded off the stain to the original light colored wood. It is hard to find a color because all the samples I see online and in the store are usually on oak. How durable are they and what kind of finish can you use on them. We have an old american foursquare with wood floors we would like to refinish hidden beneath the carpet. Honestly if I was going to spend $4500 on potentially awfully stained floors, I would spend the extra $1500-$2000 to get it done right because it would cost more than that later to redo it if you don’t like the first bad stain job. for what I know there are also some kind of water,oil,wax based for polyurethane? Yeah most times when a stain doesn’t take, it comes down to improper preparation or something in the wood itself that doesn’t allow the stain to penetrate. Hello, how soon after applying the cut shellac should the stain be applied? Since we were giving a little love and polish to the rest of the apartment, the contractor suggesting re-finishing the floors swearing that we could replicate the milky color. So you still have to sand down far enough to get the color out. Contractors notoriously try to apply products outside of the manufacturer's recommendations. I think I am going to give this website to my cabinet guy maybe it will help.. thank you for your time. Thank you, Hi Julia. Have you tried dyes? Let dry, then apply your poly or nitro sealer. :). Will the corners be darker. Also, be sure to use a blonde shellac since that emparts little to no color at all. I used a the pre stain wood conditioner from minwax since that is what our local store had. I have never stained maple before and am a bit confused on exactly what steps to follow. I try to use the least amount of shellac that will give me the “anti-splotch” result when I apply stain. He then held up his thumb to display a beautiful dark walnut nail and proclaimed, “but wear gloves if you use alcohol!” And I would add; don’t drown your sorrows and start drinking it;-). Now I’ve got two night stands which (i think) look quite nice but still not chocolate. I was going to try to lightly sand the top and then put another coat of the stain on. A good cry is healthy once in a while. In my opinion, wood should be cherished for it’s natural variances and resulting beauty. I mixed this color myself since I couldn’t find the color I wanted which is a dark cherry with a hint of walnut. Folks looking for something truly uniform should check out our friends plastic, metal, and glass. I have maple cabinets they were stained but was not aware that veneers were use to apply the stain and the veneers are coming loose can the veneers be re glue or can I remove the veneers and paint them instead. Don’t be afraid to experiment. This will get the color right where you want it. Will the General Finishes Gel Stain in Java help me achieve my goal as well or have I royally screwed the pooch here? I have used this before on a different type of wood it was a perfect color! It means a lot. So I feel for your situation. Y es you can have your maple floors stained a different color. Understand that staining… Would you recommend a gel stain or an alcohol based one? Thank you so much! I use a much-thinned cut, about 1/2 lb or less, and use scraps to determine if the particular boards need an additional coat of sealer (usually Old Masters dark walnut gel stain to be exact: http://www.amazon.com/Old-Mast.....B000I1AP1K From what I’ve read, gel stain sort of paints on top of the wood, and doesn’t penetrate it as much. I have strip and sanded the complete cabinet and wash. Hey Rob. When people say it becomes blotchy, it’s usually do to a piece of maple that has minimal figure. which one should I use? In another words step-by-step instructions to finish a large surface of raw maple flooring. Long story short, I’m left with cabinets that look as if someone did a horrible job of trying to distress them, not the look I want.
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